Pitchfork: People often describe mp3s as “dematerialized” or “invisible” music. You argue that they’re actually “things” comparable with CDs, though.

JS: They’re just different kinds of things. You can hold an mp3 in your hand, you just need some kind of container for it; Apple developed an entire campaign about the thousands of songs you can hold in your hand. There’s a materiality to them because you run out of space on your hard drive, or you can or can’t stream them depending on bandwidth. But the important thing is that their materiality comes with completely different affordances than something like a CD.

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