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The preamble, explaining that the new song does not feature founding guitarist Richard Lloyd, and to sort of shut up about it. By uploader Singluder:

Really simple. Things I don’t wanna see in comments:
“Omgz, this is not real Television!!11” It’s what the source cd said, so for the love of god don’t argue about this.

“this f***king sh*t sucks” “song?” Unnecessary trolling, plain and simple.
Further arguments regarding Television history, in particular taking sides as to whose story is truthier than the other. There’s a place for that and it is not this video.New, unreleased song. No Richard Lloyd, he’s been replaced by Jimmy Rip. Rest of the band remains the same: Tom Verlaine, Billy Ficca, Fred Smith.


To which Mr. Richard Lloyd took the time to write out his story about the band in the comment section. Here they are in chronological order:

I quit the band in 2004, after 34 years of loyalty, which meant that if I had something going on and Television had something happening, I would forgo my own project because I naively thought that it was still a band, with Tom and Fred and Bill. Over a period of 14 years, every year Tom would,talk about recording, and nothing happened except we had about 8 new songs that Tom could stand—With VERY limited lyrics. Finally, I decided that Television was like a bad girlfriend. Pt 2 to follow…

So I decided to make my own records and not act like Tom’s shill anymore. The guy has worn out his talent and this meandering piece of rubbish (my own opinion of this spacey waste of talent) proves that Tom has run out of real fruitful ideas. The song “Frustration”, which the band performed at the Summer-Stage show in 2004 (Which was to be my swan song with the “band”), also shows the lack of any cogent real virile ideas. The best thing he has is “Persia”, which is Phrygian Dominant…pt 3 next

I am sure that both Tom and I are now happier, because it allowed him to add his longtime buddy Jimmy Ripp to the band. Jimmy is a wonderful guitarist although I may be allowed to consider that he would NEVER Challenge Tom, who now has a band called Television to milk as a cash cow. I stood up to Tom on Billy’s behalf and now he HAS to use him because our agreement between band members was that any three original members could use the name and replace the departing member. Pt 4 next.

Tom has HATED Bill’s jazz leanings since the first week he showed up from Boston and even took me aside and apologized for asking him to come down. I said that all great guitarists require nutty drummers to play with and mentioned Bonham, Mitchell, Moon, Waller, and others who drove poly-rythyms under the leads – otherwise they tend to suck. But that didn’t stop Tom from auditioning drummers the x-mas week when Bill went to visit his dad, including Clem Burke, who’s testimony is irrefutable pt 5

When Television started in it’s first incarnation I stood in the middle a la the Beatles, with Richard Hell and Tom Verlaine flanking me, so that both Richard and Tom sang songs, as did I. As a Band we were both terrible and amazingly exciting, and the few souls that saw our shows at that time went away mesmerized. They used to stand with Jaws open, sometimes not even breathing. I used to measure the show by how little motion there was in the audience. Usually NOBODY MOVED: Pt 6 next

As a real band, Richard Hell was our style man and make the posters, which we all put up with corn starch and water, or plaster of paris. Tom was the musical director, and was generally permanently frustrated. He did not understand the “Act”, and screamed at both Hell and me to “STOP MOVING AROUND”. I know that my moved were born of the intensity with which I played, and Richard’s moves were part of the “Act” but Tom just couldn’t stand it, and slowly under his unrelenting badgering: pt7 next

As a real band, Richard Hell was our style man and make the posters, which we all put up with corn starch and water, or plaster of paris. Tom was the musical director, and was generally permanently frustrated. He did not understand the “Act”, and screamed at both Hell and me to “STOP MOVING AROUND”. I know that my moved were born of the intensity with which I played, and Richard’s moves were part of the “Act” but Tom just couldn’t stand it, and slowly under his unrelenting badgering: pt7 next

Both Richard and I toned down the movement, which eventually left us as robots. THEN, Tom decided that he belonged in the middle, and the demise of the original band started. Hell was pushed out to make way for Fred Smith (who I love as the “anchor around which bill’s craziness could make sense, since he played drum solos whenever we played guitar solos, sometimes playing nothing but rhythms against the solos. Then finally we signed with Elektra, and made the only record I recognize as Televisio

Television, Marquee Moon. After that everything went downhill. Tom’s ego got so big that there was room for none else, and I had to go along with his utter global contempt for the band’s sake. Nothing more to say here, except that I hope the poster doesn’t remove what are true statements from the original member.


And just for fancy’s sake, here’s a video from among Mr. Lloyd’s favorites.





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