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Wayne Coyne in Rolling Stone:

“I’m a fan of them on one level, but on another level I get really tired of their pompousness,” says Coyne. “We’ve played some shows with them and they really treat people like shit. Whenever I’ve been around them, I’ve found that they not only treated their crew like shit, they treated the audience like shit. They treated everybody in their vicinity like shit. I thought, ‘Who do they think they are?’ I don’t know why people put up with it. I wouldn’t put up with it. I don’t care if it’s Arcade Fire or Brian Eno. If either of them walked into a room and treated people like shit I’d be like, ‘Fuck you, get outta here.’

He continues, “People treat Arcade Fire like they’re the greatest thing ever and they get away with it. Those sort of opinions change my view of their music. They have good tunes, but they’re pricks, so fuck ‘em. Who does Arcade Fire think they are? I’ve been around groups. I’ve been around the Edge from U2 and he’s the fucking sweetest guy ever. I was around Justin Timberlake when he was young and he was just a normal, nice, kind person. Anyone can be polite and kind and people who have the privilege and money and attention should understand that. If they don’t, then fuck ‘em.”

Win Bulter responds on Arcade Fire.com:

Wow,
I can’t believe I am actually writing to defend my band’s “real” personality. I wish I could not respond to something like this, but the reality is, is that people will be asking me questions for the next 5 years. I also fear that people will base their opinion of our band on the media quotes of a guy who doesn’t even know us.

The only time we have ever shared a stage with the Flaming Lips was our last show on the Funeral tour at a festival in Las Vegas (over 3 years ago)…we arrived the morning of the show from Brazil, slept all day and awoke into some kind of surreal Vegas jet-lag dream in which we were playing after the Flaming Lips…how strange…I was really excited to meet Wayne. Clouds Taste Metallic was a huge record for me, and growing up in the weirdness of Houston, I always imagined Oklahoma City to be in the same universe. I was really nervous to meet him and I felt a little weird that we were playing after them. We traded a little hello, but he was a hard guy to get a read on. Steven Drodz was super nice, and I felt good after talking to him…
So…I am not sure Wayne is the best judge (based on seeing us play at a couple of festivals) if we are righteous, kind and goodhearted people like The Edge and Justin Timberlake (who I am sure he knows intimately as well). I can’t imagine a reason why we would have been pompous towards The Flaming Lips, a band we have always loved, on that particular night, all those years ago. Unless I was way more jet-lagged then I remember, I hope I was less of a “Prick” then telling Rollingstone that a bunch of people I don’t know at all are really a bunch of assholes.
As a closing note, the main point that I am offended by in this whole thing is for Wayne to say we treat our audience like shit…

At times like these I am comforted by knowing that even though Wayne slammed Beck all those years ago, he seems like a really nice guy to me. I guess everyone has a different idea of what being pompous means.
Win

Photo image via Rolling Stone
Original Photos: Koplaoff/FilmMagic (Coyne), Gershoff/WireImage (Butler)


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#1 Maldoror says:

Butler says he "can’t imagine a reason why we would have been pompous towards The Flaming Lips." But that's simply not what Coyne is claiming. Coyne said the Arcade Fire "not only treated their crew like shit, they treated the audience like shit." Butler doesn't really refute that claim or the idea that you don't have to know someone well to realize that they treat everyone around them badly.
Like a lot of people, I'm stunned that a legendarily nice guy like Coyne lashed out like this. Where there's smoke, there's fire. And Butler's weak reply did not bolster his case whatsoever.

#2 Huntington says:

I second this. Butler reduces these comments to how he would - or did - interact with Wayne. Wayne I'm sure doesn't care about that one way or the other - he's not that shallow. What he did observe is how the band shows up for everybody else. A good lesson for all: the way you act or interact when you think there are no consequences is how you really are... and there are always consequences sooner or later.

#3 idkidm says:

fck you win butler

#4 Dave says:

I saw the Arcade Fire at Coachella a while back. they were pricks to the audience hahah nah I was just fking bored. I believe wayne coyne though, that guy is a straight shooter

#5 aps says:

INDIE BEEF!!!

#6 CL says:

I fail to see how Win is the prick here. Wayne has had a track record of claiming that acts he has played along with were "pricks."

#7 lawlacaust says:

who cares both these "bands" are horrible

#8 kneejerk says:

@CL-

Oh, bull.
Name them.

#9 Dan says:

When I saw arcade fire a year ago at randalls island, Win came out to the front of the barricade before any opening bands and shook a bunch of hands and said hi. Seems like he treats the audience well to me....

#10 nitrams says:

according to wayne coyne, beck, arcade fire, the verve and radiohead are all pricks. he's badmouthed 'em all in esquire, rolling stone, the guardian, etc.

funny how wayne always says this in the press years later and not to any of them directly. this is because rolling stone and esquire would have no way to print a private conversation and his crappy martian movies wouldn't get a press plug out of it.

i understand being jealous and trying to sabotage artists who came up after and surpassed the lips but come on wayne! make something better than at war with the mystics and you'll get even more press! beefs or no beefs!

#11 Fifi says:

Here's footage of Arcade Fire at that Vegas show. What a prick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez5ycb...

#12 MikeS says:

CL isn't off base

Read the bio "Staring At Sound", Wayne went off on Beck, people on the Lolla tour, makes passive-aggressive a-hole comments about some of his band mates, and generally went off on how some other bands he toured with were not hauling their own gear, etc. Apparently his reference point for being "pompous" if you actually leave your road crew to do their jobs and not participate.

#13 haizee says:

I have been to both an arcade fire and a flaming lips show, and in my opinion both bands are fantastic and give their audiences an awesome experience. I saw Arcade Fire live at the hollywood bowl and it was one of the top 10 live rock shows I've ever seen. I think that these artists should be more evolved and stop the mud slinging and focus on making quality music.

#14 BigBrother says:

Wayne is dead on... about both Beck and AF here. They do treat people like shit. Nice to see someone like him actually call them out on it. Ask people who work with either... they are so full of it.

#15 kneejerk says:

I stand corrected.

However, after dealing with Beck personally. I can vouch that he IS a prick.

#16 Spider and I says:

None of these guys are near as pompous as my once heroes, Lou Reed and Frank Black. Those guys are the biggest assholes ever interviewed. What they can't even fake it for an hour for the sake of their legion of fans? Douchebags!! As for Win and Wayne (Ha! new band name??), they are both great live and I'm sure have their moments when they are consumed by assholism. Shut the fuck up, both of you!! You are lucky to live the lives you get to live.


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